Post by AlmostOz on Dec 11, 2008 20:14:55 GMT 7
Billy:
Good that's what I want, I want to hear a few of the oldies, so shave 15 minutes off gossamer and play them. But mostly I want to hear new stuff. It would be good if the music is released first so I can get to know the words before I see it live, but either way, not fussed that much.
Closer:
Playing concerts using the name The Smashing Pumpkins, is selling a product to the masses with certain connotations... People will expect certain things when they attend a show by the Smashing Pumpkins. Billy is reaping the benefits of the name. They wouldn't have been able to headline ANY of the major festivals they headlined when the band reformed, or embark on a world tour of such a large scale, had it not been for the name, the Smashing Pumpkins. It has been financially benefitial for Billy and Co. to use the name.
Totally agree, you couldn't headline by calling it the Billy and Jimmy circus show.
Sunky
I'm very excited about this too. Just as technology and incomes limited people being able to buy full length records in the 60's, now technology has come full circle to make it so people only want to mostly buy singles/ep's such as AG. The pumpkins have always been the soundtrack to my life, because even though they were over I was still discovering. But I'm done discovering, but still want them to be the soundtrack. New music every few months will do that. Even if it's not a hit, I won't care I'd still buy it. Like Billy has said, don't people want to hear the lead up to that hit song? The songs that surround that hit song?
Closer
I just don't understand the agression billy is showing his audience, his fans. He should do his thing, and be happy within himself that its the right thing to do, without being a grumpy old fart about it.
Artists are always strange people. I doubt if the residency shows weren't played we would have great songs like 99 floors and owata.
I mean look at today. It came from Billy's depression.
De-tec-tive
The pumpkins lost money on the residency shows. I think about 100,000? correct me if my memory is wrong. I mean they have joked about money, In New Zealand Billy said about Jimmy wanting a new ferrari as a joke. But I really think they want to make great music.
Boelson
It's awesome! The sleeping ozphoria finally awakes. We haven't had discussion like this since the days of zwan? 2003/04?
If you come see us on some crazy big tour you will hear a few familiar songs, because that is the right forum for it. But it certainly won't be the main focus
Good that's what I want, I want to hear a few of the oldies, so shave 15 minutes off gossamer and play them. But mostly I want to hear new stuff. It would be good if the music is released first so I can get to know the words before I see it live, but either way, not fussed that much.
Closer:
Playing concerts using the name The Smashing Pumpkins, is selling a product to the masses with certain connotations... People will expect certain things when they attend a show by the Smashing Pumpkins. Billy is reaping the benefits of the name. They wouldn't have been able to headline ANY of the major festivals they headlined when the band reformed, or embark on a world tour of such a large scale, had it not been for the name, the Smashing Pumpkins. It has been financially benefitial for Billy and Co. to use the name.
Totally agree, you couldn't headline by calling it the Billy and Jimmy circus show.
Sunky
As for the single type releases, well I said this last year ... its just like the 60's of rock again. The Beatles would release so many EP's / Singles throughout the year, then compile them all together. I would love this, Im so excited about this idea
I'm very excited about this too. Just as technology and incomes limited people being able to buy full length records in the 60's, now technology has come full circle to make it so people only want to mostly buy singles/ep's such as AG. The pumpkins have always been the soundtrack to my life, because even though they were over I was still discovering. But I'm done discovering, but still want them to be the soundtrack. New music every few months will do that. Even if it's not a hit, I won't care I'd still buy it. Like Billy has said, don't people want to hear the lead up to that hit song? The songs that surround that hit song?
Closer
I just don't understand the agression billy is showing his audience, his fans. He should do his thing, and be happy within himself that its the right thing to do, without being a grumpy old fart about it.
Artists are always strange people. I doubt if the residency shows weren't played we would have great songs like 99 floors and owata.
I mean look at today. It came from Billy's depression.
De-tec-tive
but are you basically saying that's he's still in it for the money? maybe i'm being naive here, but i don't think that's what he cares about....
The pumpkins lost money on the residency shows. I think about 100,000? correct me if my memory is wrong. I mean they have joked about money, In New Zealand Billy said about Jimmy wanting a new ferrari as a joke. But I really think they want to make great music.
Boelson
wow. these get heated
It's awesome! The sleeping ozphoria finally awakes. We haven't had discussion like this since the days of zwan? 2003/04?