|
|
Post by sunky on Jul 26, 2009 12:10:03 GMT 7
Some interesting info coming in from this, here is what I've found so far:
1. New SP song was played, with Mike Byrne on drums.
2. Jeff was at the show, he mentioned to a fan that he is trying to get his dissertation done before next year’s SP tour. (So I guess that means 2010 tour?)
Here is the video of the new SP song: (not full song)
Thoughts?
Also BC played on a few other tracks.
"Wind Up Toys" (Written by Electric Prunes)
“Spirit in the Sky” (written by Norman Greenbaum)
“900 Million People Daily (All Makin’ Love)” (song by the Seeds)
Pretty nice just to see Billy on stage again, happy, smiling and dressed normal (is it wrong I care so much about that? Im kind of over the skirt out fits) Anyway, I don't know the Seeds or Electric Prunes work, Im not going to pretend that I do. As a fan of BC and this was a close friend to him, I'm just happy to see him working and performing with people that make him happy.
|
|
|
|
Post by brendo on Jul 26, 2009 21:41:59 GMT 7
Holy balls? The new SP song sounds great. Reminds me of "This Time", or an electric version of "Peace and Love" perhaps. And a bit like "That's The Way" as well.
It almost reminds me of very very early Zwan too - like Glass House material - maybe it's the hat and the shirt, but that stuff was very SP-ey too.
|
|
|
|
Post by sunky on Jul 26, 2009 21:56:16 GMT 7
Yeah it has that quality to it from that short clip, lets just hope the studio version sounds good too.
If anybody finds anymore video's please post them, really keen to find more about this new song. Also Mike sounds pretty decent on the drums.
|
|
|
|
Post by brendo on Jul 26, 2009 22:11:47 GMT 7
|
|
|
|
Post by brendo on Jul 26, 2009 22:50:47 GMT 7
Some really sloppy fills in there and the kid's a cymbal basher. Huh.
Listen to 4:50 onwards, PSHH PSHH PSSHH PSSHH PSHHH diddley-diddley-did..ddly-d....iddlley PSHH PSSHHH PSHSHHHS PHSSHHSH!!!!
(the diddley diddley bit is the excrutiating fill at 5:07... but i also wish i could make him stop bashing that crash off to stage right)...
HOPEFULLY the cymbalbashing is just a bad mix on the youtube clip or something - more acoustic sound than sound from the PA or something, it would explain the low vocal level. But he's still lacking any form of nuance, has the guy heard of a ride cymbal?
What Would Jimmy Do? WWJD...
|
|
|
|
Post by sunky on Jul 27, 2009 5:11:07 GMT 7
WWJD - the new SP meme.  Speaking of JC, there was a report from that competition winner that got to have lunch with BC. The guy posted on Netphoria about it, now while some people are skeptical if he actually won or not ... anyway he made mention that BC said him and JC are close friends and catch up on a regular basis still. He said that JC needs to be a family man for now and left it at that. Anyway back to Mike. |
|
|
|
Post by Josh on Jul 27, 2009 7:24:43 GMT 7
there was a competition to have lunch with BC?
|
|
|
|
Post by sunky on Jul 27, 2009 7:44:25 GMT 7
|
|
|
|
Post by sunky on Jul 27, 2009 13:38:43 GMT 7
|
|
|
|
Post by the viper on Jul 27, 2009 19:25:41 GMT 7
Some really sloppy fills in there and the kid's a cymbal basher. Huh. Listen to 4:50 onwards, PSHH PSHH PSSHH PSSHH PSHHH diddley-diddley-did..ddly-d....iddlley PSHH PSSHHH PSHSHHHS PHSSHHSH!!!! (the diddley diddley bit is the excrutiating fill at 5:07... but i also wish i could make him stop bashing that crash off to stage right)... HOPEFULLY the cymbalbashing is just a bad mix on the youtube clip or something - more acoustic sound than sound from the PA or something, it would explain the low vocal level. But he's still lacking any form of nuance, has the guy heard of a ride cymbal? What Would Jimmy Do? WWJD... +10000. Sorry, but that is some REALLY poor drumming. I know we're comparing him against one of the greatest, but seriously it's bad.   Yes, he could be nervous, but still. Surely Billy gave this some genuine thought!?? |
|
|
|
Post by AlmostOz on Jul 29, 2009 16:44:46 GMT 7
I love the overall sound, but after reading the above i can see what you mean about the drumming.
Bc must have seen something in this guy though, so hopefully he was just nervous.
I remember saying to sunky I'd love to hear some zwan sounds through sp. I'm quite excited
|
|
|
|
Post by brendo on Jul 30, 2009 20:31:41 GMT 7
Well if that article on SP.com is to be believed, Byrne is just helping with the demo process at the moment. I don't think we'll see Carina Round on an SP tour either, nor Strawtits nor Kerry Brown, but they're helping him demo too.
We'll see what he does as far as touring...
|
|
|
|
Post by sunky on Aug 7, 2009 6:03:00 GMT 7
Update from SP.com: Spirits in The Sky might not be a one-show band after all... Interesting ... EDIT: This just got announced: www.smashingpumpkins.com/pages/news/new-tour-dates-coming-for-billy-corganSP.com can now announce that there will be new six tour dates in Southern California between August 26th and 31st. The dates will be for Billy Corgan with special guests Spirits In the Sky. Cities and venues will be announced shortly, but for those of you in the Los Angeles area, there will be six shows for you to check out! |
|
|
|
Post by brendo on Aug 7, 2009 23:04:48 GMT 7
So this is one of BC's bands that he's forming?
|
|
|
|
Post by sunky on Aug 8, 2009 9:01:22 GMT 7
I guess this falls into that category, I can't remember the specifics but he did say there was three yeah?
SP, an electronic synth band and I guess is the third?
|
|
|
|
Post by brendo on Aug 9, 2009 20:48:13 GMT 7
the synth band may as well be TFE era bc - so the fellowship of broken toys, if i havent gotten that wrong.
|
|
|
|
Post by Josh on Aug 11, 2009 12:56:27 GMT 7
I leave 2 days before. WHY must these things happen...
|
|
|
|
Post by sunky on Aug 25, 2009 12:50:07 GMT 7
|
|
|
|
Post by Josh on Aug 26, 2009 19:53:09 GMT 7
*siighhhh* why was this the night i left... i could of been there.
|
|
|
|
Post by sunky on Aug 28, 2009 12:42:39 GMT 7
|
|
|
|
Post by brendo on Aug 28, 2009 22:11:04 GMT 7
waitwhatwheathwatehawthawthawthawtahwWHAT.
song for a son?! i thought he wasn't going to play any SP songs.
Mike's still racing his fills in Freak.
So... the original songs are destined for the new SP album? Or are they just SitS songs?
|
|
|
|
Post by sunky on Aug 29, 2009 7:06:26 GMT 7
Well no, he did come out and say he may play Song for a Son or Owata on this tour, I'm assuming that comment was more to make it clear ... "Hey, I'm not playing 1979". Last point, I don't know it hasn't been that clear if they are for SP or not ... does anybody else feel like this is what Billy wanted the Djali Zwan to be? A travelling folk band playing small gigs? EDIT: Show for download: www.archive.org/details/bc2009-08-26.dab.flac16 |
|
|
|
Post by brendo on Aug 29, 2009 9:17:40 GMT 7
This is what it should've been, yeah. It seems like he's been trying to do this for 8 years now.
|
|
|
|
Post by foxy on Aug 29, 2009 9:50:13 GMT 7
Downloading now, thanks sunks...
|
|
|
|
Post by sunkissed on Aug 29, 2009 10:42:39 GMT 7
So far then there are three audio recordings circulating, one for the 26th (complete) a soundcheck for the 27th and an incomplete for the 27th. I have just got them all now from links at netphoria. Monte's video of long haired girl is pretty awesome: Ok, that doesn't seem to work, hello out there how do I embed a video that isn't from youtube? address is, www.vimeo.com/6321969Check it out there for now till I work this out! oh: and as for links to audio bootlegs they are as follows... 26th show complete: (sunky's link) www.archive.org/details/bc2009-08-26.dab.flac16Incomplete 27th show: www.megaupload.com/?d=LFNDR6HJSouncheck for 27th show: www.megaupload.com/?d=G7MKKUH1Ok, and for those who don't know, you can download from megaupload without having an account, you just click free user. Also, alternatively you can d/l from zomb; www.zombtracker.the-zomb.com/browse-a.phpAnd they are "ratio-free" if you don't have an account it's all good, it takes very little time to sign up. As for Sunky's Djali Zwan comment: I understand the comparison, and I think you're right, as I recall the kind of enthusiasm for songs for songs sake, music for the sake of music folk trouabadour vibe from the pre MSotS release it is definitely present here on these recordings. But really toward the end of the Pumpkins' tour he was doing this kind of thing anyway (think Chris Isaak show) with many members on stage and for lack of a better description the "Billy Corgan psychedelic folk thing" so I see it as more of an extension of what he was doing, which raises the question of why he has chosen SITS as opposed to calling it a Smashing Pumpkins show...do you think it's in order to avoid what the SP name brings? Or is it one of the "bands" he said he would be forming (from that email stating what he'd be doing in the future)"? Of late I've felt really weird about the pumpkins, somewhere along the line a lot of the dissent made sense to me. Not just the departure of jimmy as my pumpkins love has always centered around identifying Billy as the Pumpkins which I think may have a lot to do with the fact that I really entered into them in 2000, but more that Billy seemed to keep making decisions that really confused me and in a weird way embarrassed me. I see shows like these SITS ones at least lessening the blows of the blogosphere and perhaps giving Billy a little reprieve and allowing for eased expectations for what comes next. Interestingly I read that during the intermission at the 27th show Billy said that we won't see the Pumpkins playing arenas anymore, that his heart just isn't in it. This is exciting and I think it makes alot of sense, they're not an arena band anymore, I think back to them playing United States with Uli Jon Roth in 2007 and that part toward the end, you know, dnn dnn dnn dnn (Hey!) dnn dnn dnn dnn (Hey!) and I was lookikng at the crowd and they just didn't give a fuck and I was thinking, this song is so fucking epic, why doesn't it work? I've never come up with an answer myself, nor agreed with those presented by others, but I think playing smaller shows would really change the dynamic between the crowd and the band. I watched an interview with Jack White and Charlie Rose (some american "chat host" guy - google it, there are lots of cool interviews and one with billy also) and Jack White was talking about how audiences don't understand the role they play at concerts anymore, they don't understand that they have a reponsibility to create an atmosphere when a band is playing, the performer can only do so much... And I think these shows are a microcosmic example of that, the buzz that has been generated by these small shows is really exciting and I think it shows that people want something "special" when they see the Billy/Pumpkins/Whatever-He-Is-Calling-The-Band-He-Plays-With-At-Any-Given-Time, and for whatever reason that can't be translated at a V-fest and so on. On the same note, I think that shows like the Marquee (which I didn't attend but know to be incredibly special) the Sky Saxon Tribute etc demonstrated to Billy that smaller shows allow the band to do something that they can't do in arenas and that is to connect to people on an intimate level. And considering the songs Billy is writing of late I just don't see them ever connecting to a mass audience or a general festival crowd...ever. Also from a while back I remember you mentioning something about Billy and his skirts and yes, I agree, it is refreshing to see him in normal clothing although I hate that fucking titled hat thing that he does. Ok, Michael. |
|
|
|
Post by brendo on Aug 29, 2009 12:48:36 GMT 7
How small is smaller shows, then? There's no way SP would come out here for a small club tour.
|
|
|
|
Post by sunkissed on Aug 29, 2009 13:02:49 GMT 7
Do you mean that it isn't feasible money wise?
Shows like Festival Hall in Melbourne, that size is what I mean by small, I don't mean playing at coffee houses haha. I think if they limited the shows to places like Festival Hall and didn't play festival gigs etc then I think it would generate more buzz or excitement because there's the possibility you would miss out on a ticket, there's some sense of exclusivity when playing a show like that.
I saw the Melvins play at the Ding Dong lounge and that was pretty cool because the people there were stoked to see them in such a small venue.
Edit: also, I think they could increase the cost of tickets and play at venues like festival hall and that may help with the money issue. They could come over for say the supposed Gish Tour and play one night at festival hall...
|
|
|
|
Post by brendo on Aug 29, 2009 20:34:32 GMT 7
Yeah fair enough. I doubt SP would be able to come out for, say, a show at the Hifi bar.
|
|
|
|
Post by sunky on Aug 30, 2009 8:04:19 GMT 7
Michael I couldn't agree with you more on your comments, my thoughts exactly.
I found this comment from a fan who went to the recent show and spoke with Billy:
"Billy spoke at length with attendees right after the show and lamented what has become of his ability to create a feasible document of art in the corporate structure of modern music, and said not to expect many large arena SP shows ever again, because his heart's just not in it and he doesn't want to just rehash the greatest hits night after night, and still end up facing criticisms for not playing someone's "Song". The expectations of a large audience are so commonly unfocused on the art layed out before them. "
I think back to 1995/1996 when the Pumpkins were playing small shows at smaller venues across the US. It was similar to this sort of tour, small venues, tickets only announced days weeks/earlier and people had a great time. I know I'd rather be at a show where 500 people are there fucking loving every minute of it, as to 5000 (or more) and just the front few rows are "really into" it.
What this means for us outside the US is another story. If a promoter brings SP down here, they want the HUGE venue, this is the Smashing Pumpkins name not some one hit wonder band-flavour of the month deal ... I'd be really surprised if Billy was able to have a "profitable" tour like this here in Australia. Not saying it couldn't happen in Europe and the US ... just not here. Although when Josh met Billy recently he did tell him he'd see him in Australia soon. So ... maybe I could be wrong.
Finally, how great are some of these new songs?
|
|
|
|
Post by sunky on Aug 31, 2009 8:52:00 GMT 7
|
|
