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Post by boelsen on Apr 6, 2007 17:41:11 GMT 7
Thought i'd make a thread where we can post all the info thats coming out in the wake of its release. So today we found out that its zeitgeist has been finished, and listened to. Ben Lee said its the heaviest and most intense thing the pumpkins ahve done... this appeared on netphoria aswell: ------ this was sent to me anonymously via spfc. the source is supposedly bc's private myspace page, but as usual, the return address was not valid. i tried to translate as best i could, and made a list below the pic. what does everyone else think??? obviously some of these are going to end up being temporary names...but i think its safe to say the theories about political content as well as heavier songs, are true. thats the way orchid shades of doom c'mon lets go doomsday clock F# stomp (or FA stomp) god & country united states never lost death from above pomp + circumstances stellar gossamer ma belle from America with love tarantula scars (?) bring the light ----- I personally dont think this is true. It seems tooooo political for the pumpkins.
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Post by *Shard of Glass* on Apr 6, 2007 18:59:17 GMT 7
Hmmmmm cool.
(F# stomp, is definatly a temp. name)
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Post by Anahedonia on Apr 6, 2007 19:35:13 GMT 7
I think it's real
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Post by sunky on Apr 6, 2007 20:01:00 GMT 7
very well could be true.
i hope that 'Thats the Way' is not a cover of KC and Sunshine Bands hit, i love the song ... but i dunno.
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Post by Josh on Apr 6, 2007 23:45:23 GMT 7
ahhh orchid, i remember linda telling me that her and billy were chanelling or something like that when they were writing songs, and she said something about having the same name for a song, and she has a song called orchid too, wander if that's what she was talking about. cool
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Post by boelsen on Apr 7, 2007 9:29:31 GMT 7
i Feel like such a n00b around josh, i just know nothing haha Ah well, atleast now we know that if billy and linda are writing together, she will be the .... the... warm up band if she gets off her arse and finsihes her album
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Post by Josh on Apr 7, 2007 11:27:57 GMT 7
i don't think they're writing together, she said something like they have been writing similar stuff, and having same song titles for alot of songs
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Post by boelsen on Apr 7, 2007 13:01:07 GMT 7
Is Lindas stuff coming around a day after she has een billy? I think thats called plagiarism ;D
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Post by Insanity's Horse on Apr 8, 2007 9:07:56 GMT 7
The writing definitely looks like Billy's, especially: - The G on Gossamer - The S's - C'mon looks exactly the same as the original cover of mashed potatoes
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Post by boelsen on Apr 8, 2007 9:26:53 GMT 7
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Post by sunky on Apr 8, 2007 20:11:12 GMT 7
Seems about right, few weeks before the show. The exciting thing is with a single not only comes one song, but b-sides! how long till the album is leaked you reckon?
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Post by *Shard of Glass* on Apr 8, 2007 20:36:50 GMT 7
Seems about right, few weeks before the show. The exciting thing is with a single not only comes one song, but b-sides! how long till the album is leaked you reckon? Gold! And its not all that long away.
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Post by boelsen on Apr 9, 2007 5:27:23 GMT 7
i dont know why i do, when alot of people hate her, but i do enjoy the missy higgins, and the best thing about her is each single has 3 b-sides... which not many bands do any more. Pumpkins got a bit lazy towards the end of the career with fewer b-sides, so many they can start off with a bang
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Post by foxy on Apr 9, 2007 7:12:16 GMT 7
im sure there will be plenty of b sides, adore had a decent amount of bsides, machina only had a few cause i reckon they were saving it for machina 2.
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Post by *Shard of Glass* on Apr 9, 2007 7:38:15 GMT 7
More b-sides. Less re-mixes.
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Post by blue_june_destroyer on Apr 9, 2007 11:19:22 GMT 7
Billy really seems to be fixated on the word 'doom'... maybe it's his way of telling Trent Reznor that he loved his work on the Doom soundtrack... *guffaw nyuk nyuk*
The song titles remind me of the upcoming Year Zero album --- same sorta theme by the sound of the track names... It's all very exciting!
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Post by boelsen on Apr 9, 2007 15:22:50 GMT 7
i'm still a bit scepitcal about the whiteboard.. guess we'll find some tracks out soon enough though...
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Post by *Shard of Glass* on Apr 9, 2007 16:55:51 GMT 7
Billy really seems to be fixated on the word 'doom'... maybe it's his way of telling Trent Reznor that he loved his work on the Doom soundtrack... *guffaw nyuk nyuk* The song titles remind me of the upcoming Year Zero album --- same sorta theme by the sound of the track names... It's all very exciting! Heh heh yeah. War From Above and all that. A bit of conceptual anti-war/monolithic states theme/s never hurt anybody.
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Post by boelsen on Apr 10, 2007 18:47:38 GMT 7
if this is real (the whiteboard) i'm gonna miss the bald dude who writes love songs
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Post by AlmostOz on Apr 11, 2007 13:35:25 GMT 7
why try to write anymore love songs? siyl would be pretty hard to top
that whiteboard does have an incredible likeness to manny....
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Post by boelsen on Apr 11, 2007 15:42:25 GMT 7
because 1999% of them are.. why change.. that MAY have been an exageration.. not too sure..
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Post by *Shard of Glass* on Apr 11, 2007 18:54:20 GMT 7
if this is real (the whiteboard) i'm gonna miss the bald dude who writes love songs The lovelorn cowboy bill will show that side of him no doubt, but remember, this is gonna be heavier (style), so thus, will the themes.
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Post by boelsen on Apr 11, 2007 19:25:57 GMT 7
lovesongs dont ahve to be slow, or soft.. (ala luna, but also pissed off love songs ) but i will keep faith that this isnt a real whiteboard ;D fuck you heacy and lyrics i'd be happy with Oh, and i just noticed these new smileys.. very funky..
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Post by sunky on Apr 11, 2007 20:01:09 GMT 7
i know what you mean scott and i have the same hopes. Even though Corgan used to write dark lyrics, there was the undertone of love (either good or bad). Its what separated him from other artists. Maybe he doesn't want to write about June anymore. glad you like the smilies - thought the board needed to be brightened up a bit
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Post by Anahedonia on Apr 11, 2007 21:10:04 GMT 7
but i will keep faith that this isnt a real whiteboard ;D According to the pumpkin princess (some myspace person, who apparently knows bill somehow...i'm not sure of her connection), the whiteboard pic is real and has been on bills personal myspace page since Feb
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Post by boelsen on Apr 12, 2007 14:41:57 GMT 7
lol, pumpkins queen goes away with family problems, and in steps the pumpkins princess And yeah, i heard it was from there too... but i dunno.. it probably is real then, but it just seems toooo non pumpkins like to be from the pumpkins..
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Post by sunky on Apr 12, 2007 15:43:53 GMT 7
they might be just references to song titles, like not the full title. does that makes sense? like how we refer to 'thru the eyes of ruby' as 'ruby'.
but even with that reasoning, the titles do seem to be to literal.
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Post by *Shard of Glass* on Apr 13, 2007 14:09:22 GMT 7
Maybe he doesn't want to write about June anymore. Hmmm, you could be right, I hope she garners a mention tho ;D
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Post by catdemogogery on Apr 13, 2007 14:19:35 GMT 7
maybe he's being sarcastically dark and angry in response to the fans negative reaction of zwan and to some degree TFE.
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Post by *Shard of Glass* on Apr 13, 2007 14:22:07 GMT 7
Nah, it'll be more artistic/stylistic than in any spite statement.
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