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Post by closer on Oct 19, 2008 9:55:50 GMT 7
How can Billy claim to have written the Rose March during the residency shows, when he also claims to have received positive feedback about the song from Pete Townshend when he performed the song in 2006?
What am I missing here?
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Post by sunkissed on Oct 19, 2008 10:15:12 GMT 7
Although he played a working version of the Rose March when he played with Townshend, during the residency shows he obviously reworked the song and in essence produced the version we hear on American Gothic during this period.
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Post by sunky on Oct 19, 2008 10:57:23 GMT 7
yeah thats how I saw it too, from reports I've read he added a lot to the song during the residencies and then even more when it came to recording it for American Gothic.
At that show he also played Again, Again, Again ... I often wonder how much that changed from 2006 to 2008 ... I guess this is another Let Me Give the World to You - Adore v Machina versions.
As for Corgan saying he wrote it during the residencies, I guess he is saying he wrote the version how it ended up being released.
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Post by closer on Oct 20, 2008 6:23:43 GMT 7
It will be interesting to see how it is presented in the dvd... as a new song, or a reworking of an existing idea...
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Post by sunkissed on Oct 20, 2008 8:42:46 GMT 7
yeah, I just read a thread over on Netphoria that alluded to this....was it yours?
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Post by closer on Oct 27, 2008 19:23:43 GMT 7
haha nope, I don't venture anywhere near the pop-up filled land of netphoria...
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Post by closer on Nov 17, 2008 6:39:01 GMT 7
Ok, now that we have all seen If All Goes Wrong... we can discuss this with a little more insight!
From my impression, Billy implies that the song was written from scratch during the residencies.
Does anyone have a recording of the original rose march from the townshend gig?
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Post by sunky on Nov 17, 2008 6:49:55 GMT 7
No recording that I know of, there are only a few youtube clips from the event. but they are of other songs. But Im getting that impression too, its basically saying this song was written during that time and it is a bit confusing huh? When we know thats kinda bullshit.
I might see what information I can get, maybe an article on the evolution of The Rose March. Do you think its fair to say this has been the "lead" song from the residency sessions, as it ended up on American Gothic too.
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Post by closer on Nov 17, 2008 7:14:28 GMT 7
I think its fair to say that.
I just went to spfc.org, and they have taken the Rose March off the set for the gig in 2006, although it says the setlist is incomplete and probably out of order... It was definately listed when I began this thread..
And I can't find the blog billy posted about Pete Townshend and the Rose March either...!
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Post by sunky on Nov 17, 2008 7:47:07 GMT 7
Nah it was there, I've got that information down too. I think I might have that blog somewhere, I started collecting stuff on this for when I wrote the Pete Townshend article for Sp.com.
We'll get to bottom of it!
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Post by brendo on Nov 17, 2008 8:42:15 GMT 7
Why don't you just call billy? Surely you have his number now that you're on his staff?  |
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Post by sunky on Nov 17, 2008 9:05:49 GMT 7
ha ... urmm nope. I can only contact him on the 3rd moon cycle of each month via certain bird calls while making smoke signals ... and even when it reaches him, answers are hard to get ... especially when they are on the road.
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Post by wolfbite on Nov 17, 2008 9:08:23 GMT 7
can we get a recording of you doing the bird calls so that we get an appreciation for your talent?
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Post by Tragic Ether on Nov 19, 2008 18:34:39 GMT 7
After hearing alot of those unreleased songs on IAGW i can really see where American Gothic came from. I wish they were all on there and it was full lenght!
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Post by *Shard of Glass* on Nov 20, 2008 0:02:57 GMT 7
Short and sweet is pretty good though with the EP.
Peace and Love might be nice tho.
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Post by closer on Nov 20, 2008 13:07:40 GMT 7
Found something funny.
In the credits for If All Goes Wrong, the song Peace + Love is credited as
Peace + Love + Shit
by billy corgan etc etc..
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