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Post by sunky on Jan 18, 2010 7:45:34 GMT 7
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Post by catdemogogery on Jan 18, 2010 16:31:50 GMT 7
Not having any thoughts just yet. In a week or two I'll love it, maybe.
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Post by Josh on Jan 18, 2010 18:23:03 GMT 7
Hmmm interesting... need to listen to it more.
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Post by bazza on Jan 18, 2010 18:55:58 GMT 7
I quite like it. It's catchy, a little cheesy, but it's all good. I reckon it's got flashes of vintage pumpkin too. I do remember the riff from the SITS show, it intrigued me then, and I like it now. I'd give it 3-4 stars out of 5.
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Post by brendo on Jan 18, 2010 19:55:47 GMT 7
Sounds far more like Zwan than SP but we knew that from SITS. The most pumpkins moment is the piano bit, before the bass comes back in.
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Post by sunky on Jan 18, 2010 21:03:28 GMT 7
Have to agree with you there Brendo. Its not bad, but its not great ... I'm not disappointed with this.
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Post by russticles on Jan 19, 2010 7:08:12 GMT 7
Atleast this one sounds more "finished" than Song For A Son, production wise.
I wonder how this "song at a time" thing will work out. Considering the album format is widely accepted in the sense that an album will have a few golden tracks, a few good tracks and a few duds. I guess Billy needs to be pretty confident with each song he puts out as being the best it can possibly be.
The song's ok. Don't know about you guys but it's the sort of song I want to hear in an album context, not by itself.
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Post by sunkissed on Jan 19, 2010 14:20:32 GMT 7
Has a zwan vibe, but with a better sound (not that comfortable talking about production because I don't know a lot about the ins and outs of producing a record)..like russticles I want to hear this song in relation to the rest of the album. I like the song, but I notice that the whole time I listen to it I'm waiting for something awesome to happen, and it doesn't. Perhaps that's unfair, but I think that releases like this can be underwhelming because the song has to stand on its own without a way for you to understand it in context to the body of work it was made in.
What do you guys think, are we supposed to judge the song on its own merits? And if so, what criteria are we using to evaluate it?
And if not, to truly 'review' the song do we need to hear it in the finished 44 song album context?
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Post by Tragic Ether on Jan 19, 2010 14:24:30 GMT 7
D'YER MAK'ER anyone?!!?!?
Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh.....
First listen = disappointing. Will give it a fair run though and get back to you all.
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Post by Cygnet on Jan 19, 2010 14:57:34 GMT 7
Much better than the last one, sounds very Zwanish, still not anywhere near the standard I expect from him.
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Post by foxy on Jan 19, 2010 16:42:42 GMT 7
First listen and I hated it...Found it pretty annoying to be honest. Might grow on me.
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Post by siamese on Jan 20, 2010 4:05:51 GMT 7
I'm 40 seconds in.....this is not the smashing pumpkins.
First listen full way through, hate it, hate the oh's, hate the gospel organs, hate the upbeat tone. It sounds like christian rock.
Will wait for next song as this one just does not compute.
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Post by cherryonion on Jan 20, 2010 6:40:36 GMT 7
It's not bad, I probably like it better than Song for a Son. Neither songs are ones that I'd be dying to play though.
The last internet released pumpkins song that really grabbed me was 'C'mon' or something like that? I don't know what it was cold but it was raw and edgy.
And if you think this song is christian sounding, that's because it is! Billy seems like a real religious dude now.
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Post by cherryonion on Jan 20, 2010 6:45:21 GMT 7
Right now I'm listening to The Rose March. Now that song is brilliant I think!
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Post by Eye on Jan 20, 2010 6:47:28 GMT 7
In case you haven't heard yet, Billy just released the new song "Widow Wake My Mind" www.smashingpumpkins.com/I had never heard it before, as I have heard basically any of the Spirits of the Sky stuff. It's a good song, but a little too 70s for my taste. I liked "A Song for A Son" a lot more. But maybe this one will grow on me more.
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Post by the viper on Jan 20, 2010 17:37:14 GMT 7
Really don't like it. Cheesy. Bad lyrics. Boring riff. Unimaginative and dull drums. Critical I know, but urgh.
SP are sounding more and more like Maroon 5 every day. Digged Song for a Son though.
This is not the progression I had hoped for.
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Post by AlmostOz on Jan 21, 2010 6:02:19 GMT 7
Widow is very repetitive. I'm not really a fan. But just as songs like "we only come out at night" from mcis wouldn't make sense by themselves but do in an album context, maybe this will over the next 42 releases.
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Post by bonno on Jan 21, 2010 20:45:00 GMT 7
Yeah good point about placing the song in context. I have to say that it feels pretty strange to hear this project coming out one song at a time. one of the joys of buying an album is to put it on and hear the journey that it takes you on. i particularly remember my first adore listen for this. i guess the journey will take a little longer with teargarden. im looking forward to whats to come.. loved song for a son, widow is yet to grow on me but hey its free so im not really complaining.
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Post by catdemogogery on Jan 25, 2010 15:00:22 GMT 7
I'm loving Widow Wake My Mind. The riff, the oh's, the lyrics. It's all great, bright and sunny with a tinge of SP sadness too. I would like a widow to wake my mind and I have a son I never had.
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Post by brendo on Jan 25, 2010 17:37:57 GMT 7
hate the gospel organs, hate the upbeat tone. It sounds like christian rock. Will wait for next song as this one just does not compute. I take it you hate the chorus of 1979 too, then?
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Post by Insanity's Horse on Jan 26, 2010 20:03:35 GMT 7
I actually like this song. It offers a very upbeat sound, some pretty good lyrics at times, and it is a song i find that i can play repeatedly without getting sick of it.
Accept the grace, the moment you are in Accept the chase of where we must begin
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Post by boelsen on Feb 3, 2010 15:09:30 GMT 7
id be interested to see the downloads of the songs. i think widow has had 5 plays, and nothing to make me want to go back to it. interest faded pretty quick
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Post by gfresh33 on Feb 4, 2010 9:20:37 GMT 7
Yeah i like it but it is a little repetitive like "A Song For A Son" ..... can't wait for the Feb song.!!
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Post by siamese on Feb 23, 2010 3:38:47 GMT 7
hate the gospel organs, hate the upbeat tone. It sounds like christian rock. Will wait for next song as this one just does not compute. I take it you hate the chorus of 1979 too, then? Did you just compare 1979 to this? Did that just happen? But seriously, I love 1979, I do get sick of it but its a great song. Its nothing like this new song. This goes down as probably the worst song since the reformation of SP. I really do hate it.
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Post by catdemogogery on Feb 23, 2010 16:50:50 GMT 7
Rule #9 Joy is a choice that can be made
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Post by sunky on Feb 23, 2010 20:55:45 GMT 7
Let's get physical! www.insound.com/Smashing_Pumpkins_Teargarden_By_Kaleidyscope_Vol.1_|_Songs_for_a_Sailor__PRE-ORDER_CD%2B7%26quot%3B/productmain/p/INS72501/THIS ITEM IS A PRE-ORDER. WE EXPECT IT TO SHIP ON OR BEFORE THE APRIL 20TH RELEASE DATE. VINYL FORMAT. Teargarden By Kaleidyscope Vol. 1 | Songs for a Sailor is packaged in a silk-screened wooden box (7 1/4" tall x 8" wide x 1.05" thick). Each box contains: a 4-song CD (with four new Smashing Pumpkins songs and instrumental intros), a 7" vinyl single (containing a new song and a B-Side), and a hand-carved "leopard stone" obelisk, about 2" tall, similar to marble. Tracks include the guitar squealing "Song for a Son," "Widow Wake My Mind" - a jagged-chorded, keyboard-buttressed ballad; "Astral Planes," and "A Stitch in Time." Billy Corgan is playing and recording almost everything himself, with studio help from long time collaborator Kerry Brown and new drummer Mike Byrne. Teargarden By Kaleidyscope Vol. 1 is the first release in a series of eleven, comprising forty-four songs, to be anthologized in four song EPs in limited and elaborate packaging. The concept for Teargarden is based around four Tarot cards: the Child, the Fool, the Skeptic and the Mystic.
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Post by bonno on Feb 24, 2010 3:47:54 GMT 7
Finally something to put my greasy mits on! and at 30 US bucks yeah thats pretty sweet. Thanks for posting sunky!
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Post by sunky on Feb 24, 2010 6:38:55 GMT 7
No worries. I should pre order I guess. Some poster artwork too.
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Post by gfresh33 on Feb 24, 2010 9:18:39 GMT 7
I just pre-ordered mine But when you think about the cost in the long run it's going to pretty expensive.!!! $30 + $10 postage and there is going to be 11 of these boxsets.... $440 But i guess we get a obelisk......... that's a bonus.!!!
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Post by brendo on Feb 24, 2010 18:37:25 GMT 7
I take it you hate the chorus of 1979 too, then? Did you just compare 1979 to this? Did that just happen? Yes - sonically. Not musically. The chimeyness of the chorus of 1979 is exactly what the organ parts are doing in WWMM.
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