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Post by sunky on Jul 2, 2003 14:43:58 GMT 7
many of Corgans songs can be linked to love. But did he ever write a TRUE love song? Personally i think that only Stand Inside Your Love can classed as a true Love song, as such.
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Post by .honeyspider. on Jul 2, 2003 14:59:52 GMT 7
hmm now thats an interesting one.. i think there are a few songs which could be classed as 'love' songs.. but we all have different ideas on what IS a love song i guess, and unless we were in billys head at the time of him writing it.. we will never know......  but i do agree about siyl being a 'love' song.. most definately. i won't go on and mention what else i class as love songs yet *or maybe ever* because its so hard to know what he was thinking/feeling when he wrote them.. we could take it as a love song as such, but it could have a completely different meaning to him. yeh... enuf said ;D |
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Post by sunky on Jul 2, 2003 15:48:52 GMT 7
well i mean also that alot of people think that Ava Adore is about love, but i don't see it as a good type of love - its more like a dirty type of love.
but i guess that goes with what you have said - we all view love in all its forms differently ...
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Post by paleprincess on Jul 2, 2003 21:47:38 GMT 7
I think there are a few lines from different songs, if they were all made into one song.... then we would have a true love song  |
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Post by anti on Jul 3, 2003 10:38:20 GMT 7
sometimes its a bit hard, alot of his songs are so emoutionally intense that they feel like love songs.
i think "by starlight", "Luna", "Lily" feel like love songs
either that or they remind me what it feels like to be in love
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Post by SPchick on Jul 6, 2003 19:05:16 GMT 7
Soma, Luna, Beautiful, Stand inside your love, Ava adore...
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Post by Carlie on Jul 7, 2003 18:58:33 GMT 7
i agree that SIYL is the only 'true' love song billy wrote. Though i think there are alot of others that you can relate back to that feeling of being in a relationship or having feelings for someone. So that kinda gives me the impression that alot of his songs; ie. In The Arms Of Sleep, Perfect & Galapogos..... were all about love.
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Post by blue_june_destroyer on Jul 8, 2003 19:08:41 GMT 7
AVA ADORE!
give me dirrty dirrty love!.. it's a song about an addiction to loving someone... loving someone and you just can't get enough of them...
there's no such thing as a true love song.
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Post by foxy on Jul 10, 2003 17:03:48 GMT 7
i heard a theory that ava adore was about hitler and the nazis...
ava (ava brown, hitlers misteriss)
Drinking Mercury (a form of torture used on the jews)
Pull you crooked teeth (Nazis took gold teeth from the jews mouthes)
In you i taste god (the nazis thought they were doing gods job)
plus their are a few more obvious ones like a gun to my head etc....
plus i think everyone is missing a very obvious one...
Let me Give the World to You!
so i find it really hard to see ava adore as a love song now, even though i dont nescissarily believe the ava adore is about the nazis its given me that perspective that i cant lose...
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Post by Carlie on Jul 11, 2003 12:06:44 GMT 7
Thats an interesting theory... it makes a bit of sence tho...
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Post by Steve on Jul 11, 2003 12:32:32 GMT 7
thats it...first thing i do tonite is watch some hogans heroes... "I know NOTHINK"  |
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Post by AlmostOz on Jul 14, 2003 8:14:19 GMT 7
the lyrics to siyl are so deep!
i keep a copy of the lyrics on my wall
its only when you really read the lyrics that you get this funny feeling about it
the best way to understand siyl from billies view is to download the intro to siyl from vh1 storytellers.
anyone happen to have all those songs on cd while im at it?
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Post by nitrousovercast on Jul 14, 2003 18:27:04 GMT 7
when I think "love song" I think of Luna and SIYL first.
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Post by ShatteringGlass on Jul 17, 2003 14:55:46 GMT 7
SIYL and 'in the arms of sleep'
But lots of Pumpkins songs are about love! just not 'love songs'
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Post by .honeyspider. on Jul 24, 2003 13:43:57 GMT 7
what about real love? well it is about love, whether its a love song or not........ ;D there are alot of songs that make me think about love but i still go with my original comment... oh yeah and the others i think of when i think of love are let me give the world to u, luna, galapogos, soma, jupiters lament *i'm lost without u*, and hmmm... many many more.... which have been mentioned. |
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Post by todaysquiet on Aug 15, 2003 18:43:21 GMT 7
Spaceboy?
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Post by nitrousovercast on Aug 15, 2003 19:39:43 GMT 7
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Post by anti on Aug 19, 2003 8:07:05 GMT 7
i hope you mean in a brotherly love kind of way though there is that weird sample at the end |
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Post by nitrousovercast on Aug 19, 2003 19:14:23 GMT 7
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Post by anti on Aug 20, 2003 5:53:11 GMT 7
yeah that cool
my favorite one is the muzzle one
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Post by kiwi on Aug 22, 2003 15:09:15 GMT 7
Lily (My One and Only) I thought would have been an obvious one...
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Post by nitrousovercast on Aug 22, 2003 17:43:02 GMT 7
does it count? i thought it was about his cat. well he loves his cat right? loves his...cat....lovecat....ok so anyway....
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Post by toolgasm on Sept 6, 2003 17:00:26 GMT 7
i heard a theory that ava adore was about hitler and the nazis... lol, I'm sorry, but this sounds ridiculous to me. No offence foxy, and unless Billy confirms otherwise, I don't think this theory deserves much credit. And by the way, Hitler's wife was Eva Braun, not Ava. And yes, I share everyone's love of SIYL I love the funky rhyme scheme that's close to the end of the song: "And for the first time, I'm telling you how much I need and bleed for your every move and waking sound..." I could go on, but dinner's on the table!  |
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Post by stumbleine on Dec 15, 2003 10:56:44 GMT 7
I don't think there can be such a thing as a real love song unless the person who wrote it says it is. Songs are open for interpretation and considering a song to be about love can have alot to do with what you conceive love to be. Btw, I love SIYL. *sigh* The vid clip is funky |
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Post by aLLy RoSE on Dec 24, 2003 10:57:51 GMT 7
'Beautiful'...I think thats pretty obvious..
As for 'Lily'', to me it sounds as if Billy wrote it through the eyes of a stalker, an obsessive type of love. With lines like "but an officer is knocking at my door" and "Through her window shade I watch her shadow move" I don't think it was really meant as a love song, although at times it sounds like it should be one...
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Post by blue_june_destroyer on Dec 27, 2003 20:50:01 GMT 7
'By Starlight' has to be one of my favourites...
The song of love... finding love and understanding that there is a significant other for every one of us out there... and the journey two people take towards recognising and figuring out what the other is all about.
'In The Arms of Sleep'... for those nights when you are away from the one you love... the pain caused by the geographical distance between you...
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Post by foxy on Jan 13, 2004 8:15:33 GMT 7
I'll second in the arms of sleep, I have to agree with everything Bree said about it...
I always put medellia of grey skys as a love song although there are some lines that kinda undo the love song, but lines like your a secret noticed, your all i notice in a crowded room etc...
Crush is another one for me.
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Post by .honeyspider. on Jan 19, 2004 8:22:14 GMT 7
I always put medellia of grey skys as a love song although there are some lines that kinda undo the love song, but lines like your a secret noticed, your all i notice in a crowded room etc... i agree TOTALLY and ooh ohhh... also jupiters lament.. well i think so anyway |
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Post by sunky on Jan 19, 2004 8:58:57 GMT 7
Jupiters Lament?
why have you left me amoungst the tall trees? ...
I knew I gave her all I had
its a wonderful song, but a sad love song. its more about loosing love, a love you tried so hard to hold onto but it wasn't mutial. I love the song, it does remind me of worst times in my life ... but now it makes me feel positive becuase i got through them.
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Post by .honeyspider. on Jan 19, 2004 9:03:07 GMT 7
Jupiters Lament? why have you left me amoungst the tall trees? ...
I knew I gave her all I hadits a wonderful song, but a sad love song. its more about loosing love, a love you tried so hard to hold onto but it wasn't mutial. I love the song, it does remind me of worst times in my life ... but now it makes me feel positive becuase i got through them. yeh i guess.. lol.. i was sort of thinking of it like that anyway.. a sad love song.. ie.. "i'm lost without you, i'm lost within you..." oh and i agree with what u said above.. i love it too, because it does remind me of the worst times in my life too.. and as you did, i got through them too! ;D |
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